Morrison: Well, that's the head place in California. Detective: Now, when you say you bound her up, is that you referring to the duct tape that you talked about earlier? Flew Saturday, headed to Ottawa Saturday night…. Detective: Okay, ‘cause different vehicles different makes, models, have wheelbase width so…, Detective: …they can take those 2 sets of tire tracks, measure the distance between them…. I can’t say that they were the same exactly, the same model, but uh, our dealership here in Ottawa says they’re very popular for the Pathfinder so…. Detective: Well, um, well do you want to supply things like fingerprints, blood samples? Russell Williams: The blue headband has something, uh, you know, stitched. Detective: Okay, where’s that knife, which knife did…. I had, uh, I had Monday off. Interview Questions. I don’t, I don’t know what else to do to, to make, make you understand the impact of what’s happening here. Detective: Okay, so you have an idea of, obviously the forensic capabilities, things like that, are out there. Russell Williams: [inhales deeply] After she was dead. Just to, you know, uh, a sports, you know, pull over type like just a little cap kind of thing. Sweatshirt, dark pants. Detective: Okay, do they know that you took their underwear? Detective: Okay, and how long did that take? That’s it. Russell Williams: It would have been, uh, it would have been difficult for investigators to ignore that connection. Detective: Okay, and cooperative can mean a number of different things. Detective: Um, and essentially what’s happened over the past, uh, uh, about four or five months…. Detective: …and what do you do that night, the first night? Russell Williams: So, I, I can’t remember honestly that that’s the day that I had the meeting in Ottawa but uh, if I wasn’t at the Base it was because I was there. Detective: Um, there have been four occurrences, uh, like I said, that we’re looking into. Detective: Um, so, that particular week, uh, do you have any recollection, well, for instance, when you got the email, uh…. I was in Tweed all week. ( Log Out / Russell Williams: Then I subdued her, as I described. Detective: And where were those photos taken? I didn’t have the light on in there but it doesn’t surprise me. Detective: Yeah, I can get somebody to take you to the washroom. Detective: So, you don’t have pictures of you in her underwear? Why don’t we start there? Russell Williams: [sigh] Um, well, I’m with her, there’s on the hard drives. Anything like that, that we should know about to try and uh, explain why if, if your DNA is found? And I want, I want you to see what I mean. Detective: Eh, the time you met her, the one time there, yeah. Morrison: I probably wouldn't be able to get it for yourself, no. Russell Williams: Just ‘cause I’d seen her and she was cute. You should keep these two things separate in the transcript. She got, uh, you know, was obviously stress but uh, you know, probably, probably went on for about 15 minutes, part of it. Russell Williams: So then she came down looking for the cat. Maybe you got me fooled. Detective: Okay, um, do you have any recollection at all of being off the road? Okay. Russell Williams: Just, uh, vaginal and oral. Detective: Okay, alright. Russell Williams: Well, she lives 3 doors down and uh, didn’t know her but I knew she is pretty alone. I’m sure it spread like wild fire. Russell Williams: Well, ‘cause she knew I was taking pictures. How did you, uh, decide on her? Russell Williams: You need more. Detective: By hitting her with that red flashlight? Took off her, pulled her top down and took off her pants. Detective: Okay, when did you tape her mouth? Detective: I don’t know. Detective: Okay, the headband and the uh, the cap. [sighs] No, I can’t remember the day of the week. It does, however, provide insight into the interview process. Detective: Okay, um, alright. Source document contributed to DocumentCloud by Matt DeLong (The Star Tribune). Russell Williams: Uh, well, I, I only ever had one with me so I don’t know if I used the same piece both times or not but only 2 lengths of rope. Russell Williams: Well, the um, yeah. Just a second. Russell Williams: [sigh] uh, [sigh] couple, well, hour and a half, two hours, I guess. Detective: Uh, basically in Canada, uh, as you know, I’m sure is, uh, we all have, uh, our rights guaranteed under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Washed her and then we went into my bedroom and went to sleep a little bit. I said I’m not going to kill you. Russell Williams: Well, so I raped her in, uh, in her house and then I took her to the car and took her to Tweed and um, spent the day in Tweed and I hit her, um, as we were walking. Really, really fast. She thought we were leaving. Russell Williams: I’m concerned that they’re tearing apart my wife’s brand new house. Detective: Uh, we have a phone list of lawyers that, uh, are available to give you advice free of charge right over the phone. I subdued her, tied her up, brought her upstairs. Detective: Okay, so when we find her, is she going to have those clothes on, too? Russell Williams: I think, um, I think they’re Toyo. Detective: So you get back to Tweed and what happens next? Detective: Alright, um, did you do anything else to try and uh, cover your tracks with Marie-France? Sometimes they’ll include recommendations for other related newsletters or services we offer. Russell Williams: I struck her with the, uh, flashlight thinking it would knock her out. Uh, I did a number of trips, uh, in Canada transporting um, our, um, you know troops for the first leg out of Edmonton. Russell Williams: On a different street. Russell Williams: I was waiting for her to go to bed. I don’t know what it is. DC: Well you just told me you've got one degree, have you got more than one degree? Russell Williams: She wasn’t wearing anything to start with. And you where, uh, when you were first there before she came home, do you remember did anybody come to the door at all when you were in the house? My job was just to control her. Detective: It may be consistent with other things but consistent…. Detective: Okay, um, when these, when these pictures uh, are looked at, um, you talked about being in Marie-France’s underwear on the first night, you went in. So your wife now knows what’s going on. Detective: Okay, and you would’ve, now again, uh, I know we’re talking 2 months ago here but do you…. Detective: Do you remember her saying anything to you? Detective: Um, did you take anything out of Marie-Frances’ house or Jessica Lloyd’s house? Detective: Okay, and then what do you do? Did you wait for it to finish or…? Uh, uh, name of some sort stitched on it and the, uh, skull cap has some sort of emblem on it. Detective: Straight to your house in Tweed or straight…. Russell Williams: I expect, uh, from the hits to her head. Russell Williams: Of Jessica’s and uh, Marie-France. Um, and you talked about the idea of discretion here…. Russell Williams: Well, you wouldn’t notice. It didn’t. Russell Williams: Her skin breaking with the, uh, blows to her head. Yeah, they’ll find signs of that. It’s about 30 minutes from there to uh, no, probably 20 from there to my house. Um, do you remember where you had dinner? Russell Williams: Friday, on the day I was, um, hm. I had the start of a stomach flu. Detective: ..uh, but what, what can happen sometimes is they, you know, somebody gets stopped by the police like you did and they, uh, get asked that question and people, when they’re stopped by the police, they can be nervous, okay? Was not flying so I was at the base so I would have gone in early in the morning, back in the evening again. Russell Williams: Oh, I took her sheets off the bed and ran them through the laundry. Do you remember where, uh, in Ottawa you were? Got off on having that label. Detective: Um, 23rd being the Monday, uh, 24th being the Tuesday. Do you go to bed or…? Cut the screen, slid the window, crawled in. I raped her over a period of time. Um, she was on a crew, uh, I was on, uh, just after I got to the base. Detective: Alright, um, I’ve had uh, you were talking about the, the whole idea of the MP’s, uh, helping us with our investigation…, Detective: … stuff like this. Russell Williams: Yeah, no. Russell Williams: Now I think somebody had come home, somebody had come to the house just before she did ‘cause I thought it was her but then they left. Detective: Do you remember where you were? So, if it was the Tuesday then I would’ve left uh, Tweed. Russell Williams: Then I took her upstairs. She had those brown suede shoes on that had been reported. Detective: … um, for us to get DNA match the sample we had to find was, um, you know, probably would’ve filled half of on of these cups. Detective: …and probably a lot of other people’s DNA. Russell Williams: Mostly to make my wife’s life easier. Because my unders…. Russell Williams: One of my people, yeah. Russell Williams: Not long, maybe a couple hours. Russell Williams: I had met Marie-France that one time in the, in our airplane. Detective: Well, um, what did the hit on the back of the head do? Russell Williams: Because I was flying early the next morning. Detective: So, uh, again I appreciate it. Russell Williams: Said that was her house. Russell Williams: Uh, you could definitely uh, take [inaudible]. Like what, uh…. I had been in Ottawa earlier in the week, uh, for some meetings over in uh, in Gatineau for one of the um, [inaudible] C17 acquisitions. Detective: Okay. Okay. He was formally charged with two counts of first degree murder, sexual assault, two counts of forcible confinement, and 84 counts of breaking and … Detective: Okay, and you went back on Thursday night, right? Russell Williams: [sigh] Soon as I got her up to the bedroom. I subdued her, took some pictures, left. So when she spotted me, I, uh, had the same flashlight. Detective: I got somebody running around looking for an actual map but uh, I did the same thing with uh, the Google maps except blew them up a little bit more, um, this is the, this is the biggest of the area. Detective: Are these items that are in your house in Tweed? *************************************************************************************************. It’s, uh, I’m sure you’re the same way. Detective: Okay, um, yeah, and I’m, I’m aware of that…. It just doesn’t happen. He's also a columnist for The Washington Post. Russell Williams: Some, uh, rope that I brought. 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